At what price to like Nobiz, Curlin
Both Nobiz Like Shobiz and Curlin figure to attract significant support at the windows in the Kentucky Derby. In fact, Curlin will likely be favored.
Yet each offers reasons to hesitate before running to the windows and betting the farm.
With respect to Nobiz Like Shobiz, he has shown a tendency to lose focus, and although he seemed better in the Wood Memorial with the addition of blinkers, Aqueduct is a track he had already raced over, and hardly resembled a Derby Day atmosphere. David Grening of Daily Racing Form even reported that Nobiz Like Shobiz got to looking at the cars parked in the infield of the Belmont Park training track during a recent work, and Barclay Tagg had Cornelio Velasquez work him close to the fence in his latest drill in an effort to keep him from bearing out on that first turn. Sure sounds like a work in progress, and who knows if all the pieces have yet fallen into place.
As for Curlin, he has gotten more professional with each successive race, yet the fact remains he has had only three, and didn’t even begin his racing career until February.
So what would constitute a fair price come post time on May 5?
Nobiz Like Shobiz was between 8-1 and 10-1 in the three Future Wager pools, and 10-1 seems about right.
Curlin, on the other hand, went from 30-1 in Pool 2 to a paltry 7/2 in Pool 3. While not the type of horse you would want to leave completely out of exotics, Curlin was a terrible play at 7/2 on April 15, and isn’t much better at these same odds on May 5. The undefeated Barbaro went off at odds of 6-1 one year ago, and a similar price on Curlin would be appealing, but not likely.
2 Responses to “At what price to like Nobiz, Curlin”
is there even a “good” price to bet curlin at in the derby? its been since 1882 that a horse won the derby without racing as a 2yo…and since 1915 that a horse won the derby with only three lifetime starts (entering the race)…in a 20-horse field, with 217 years of history against him (check my math, please), what kind of price is good enough? he will probably be the 9-2 favorite, im thinking. how anyone could take that price, with all the history going against him, is beyond me. and the other thing…whatever speed figure you subscribe to, the reality of it is that curlin has never run fast. he is amongst the fastest, but by no means does he have any advantage over the competition.
and let me ask this…what would any “major” derby contender done in the arkansas derby? im pretty sure they would have won by 10 also. i guess you can say flying first class flattered curlin a bit today, but that is no great shakes to me.
i cant see wagering any money on curlin whatsoever, and i will go so far as to say ill keep him out of the 2nd spot as well. off the top of my head, the best example of a curlin-like horse i can think of is pulpit. he burst on the scene at GP in 1997 and won a msw, n1x, and fountain of youth. he wa defeated in the florida derby and then returned to win the blue grass, sending him to CD at 4 for 5 lifetime and i think at 7-1 in the derby. he ran galliantly to finish 4th (never to race again). the thing about pulpit was that he consistantly ran FAST. dont quote me, but i want to say he was throwing 107’s out in his first 3 starts, and again in the blue grass as well. point being, he could only muster 4th as a faster horse, with more seasoning, than curlin. i cant see curlin doing much better.
as for nobiz like showbiz…i’ll be the first to admit i still firmly believe this colt will prove to be the best of his generation…but even i realize he is the same horse he was last year as a 2yo. so, i cant get excited about him in the derby. the stubborn guy in me says he is the only other horse i can put on top in my wagers (any given saturday being the other, and my top choice), but he is still green, rank, and unsettled in the lane, all at about 8-1 in a 20-horse field. maybe he gets over-looked a bit, but its not like you will get 17-1 on him or something. the only thing going for him is that he could get run off his feet a bit in the first part of the race, forcing him to settle and make a run; which i think is his best style. and, he has yet to make a move forward, which i think he has in him…if he runs his race he could win the derby…if he moves forward, he could win for fun…again, maybe i am stubborn, but ill stick with him…
the way c-quay regrouped 2 races back in traffic which he will encounter on sat only firms up my backing of this horse. plus his last race was great, coming wide etc. a must key horse!!!
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